The leviathan however has intellect that the megalodon does not posses. These fearsome predators shared the same ocean during the same time period and were likely well acquainted with each other. Let’s take a closer look at each of these prehistoric sea monsters. Only Jesus and God of Heaven really knows. @sirfizzwhizz: 1/3? Like a modern Great White, Megalodon was likely an ambush predator, attacking from below and at great speed. while livyatan was maybe only about 10 km slower but the whale was about 3 times as intelligent, The Livyathan Melvillei was not bigger then the Megalodon they were the same. The eq system might even be worse than the system of brain size=intelligence. Megalodon would have been plenty intelligent enough to know how and when to dodge, lunge and bite, even if a group of them wouldn't have been able to mount a coordinated attack. But what about in a head-to-head encounter? Some have claimed that whales are only slightly smarter than sharks and aren’t as intelligent as actual exceptionally intelligent animals like dolphins. It is after hours of studying that I have come to this conclusion. Speed is a sharks specialty. We have no complete fossils of either and can only make guesses. During gold rush, its points multiplier is 8X. ccccccccccccccccccccccccc on June 19, 2019: If it was just the megalodon vs the whale, then the megalodon would win for obvious reasons such as it's superior speed, bite force and mass. One ram at the megalodon and it would be half dead. Depends. Back when Megalodon was first discovered researchers put its estimated length at 80-100 feet, but in recent times there are more realistic numbers. The great white on the same plane of depth as that prey, will attack directly by the jaw and several times if the prey can repel it (it is the case of the orca by proportion or of the pilot whale). In addition, while orcas use their intelligence to great effect while hunting, that's in the form of cooperation and communication, enabling very effective teamwork. Like any other !! Me want lunch! leviathan would be too hard for meg to win and colossal squids which grow up to 22 meters or sperm whales up to 19 meters or liopleurodon which can grow up to 26 meters all beat meg (meg grows up to 18 meters). Really in a fight only intelligence and speed would be effective. But, the megalodon's bite force is the strongest ever. If it's the scientifically examined and presumed largest Meg from the past, 25 KWs are too much. animals ever lived 41.000 pounds that around 19 tons but the livyatan whale had twice bigger teeth megalodon was faster with 70 kmh and megalodon also had a thick body so it can take a hit mabye megalodon would go for his meg is a piece of rubbish to a leviathan. It would be a close fight as they are the same size and preyed on similarly sized and in some cases the same animals. 50 50 to me. Considering megalodon preferred smaller whales, it is likely it would be difficult for it to catch the greater whale species. lol, spite thread, killer whales have nothing on a megalodon. Still, at over 60 feet long and perhaps weighing as much as 100 tons it was the biggest and most dangerous shark that ever lived. leviathan bite force is 21000psi and meg is 35000psi but leviathan=huge teeth so livyatan=win, don't underestimate whales. In no way in hell can the shark win this. Once 9 sperm whales fought slightly over thirty orcas(the most intelligent non human animals), the orcas were only able to kill one before being forced to flee despite outnumbering their adversaries by a factor of 3. Megalodon has a chance to win this fight but it is still way weaker than people claim it is. That would actually mean Livyatan was heavier because it had bones rather than cartilage for a skeleton. The whale-period! Did the monster Livyatan bully this massive shark, or was it the other way around? Oh I forgot it says no links because it promotes other sites. about the same as modern male sperm whales and, I assume, male Livyatans. Whales were much smaller at the time of the megalodon. The livyatan would probably win by a small margin not because of brains or agility but because of stronger bones, blubber armor, and a head ram. Although if the Livyatan could get a bite on the gills of the shark it will be hard for it to though, due to the fact the Megalodn's speed would counter that attack really easily. But why did these monsters die off when other sea creatures of the same time flourished? With such a command over the ancient oceans, it seems unfathomable that these huge creatures would have somehow met their ends, but a changing climate proved too much for them. @Nat you are mostly correct. Livyatan is related to the sperm whale which has the thickest skin of any animal alive today meaning it will be hard for megalodon to penetrate its blubber. so its 50/50. Surely there was no prehistoric beasty large and powerful enough to present a challenge for Livyatan, the Leviathan of the deep. the LIKELY winner of this battle is the livyatan. Megalodon has 180kn bite force. on June 30, 2018: Though the leviathan has big sharp teeth, the megalodon’s powerful bite force is the equivalent of a kick in the balls. :) ^-^ and meg is not smart so yeah. Some say megalodon ate Livyatan but it was an ambush predator and Livyatan might have eaten it too. It is believed Megalodon may have subdued prey larger than itself by biting the fins off first, then coming in for the kill. I am aware that megalodon is faster but sharks aren’t built for long distance swimming while whales are. So 50 50.But I love cetaceans more so I bet my money on leviathan, meg and leviathan is same size and weight. How does this post have such an insane comment-to-views ratio??? but much like modern cetaceans (whales, dolphins , and porpoises) its likely that the livyatan did not live a solitary life. 3 wales is a challenge by themselves lol. When I knew that the livyathan's skin layer, being a close cousin of the sperm whale, was very thick, all my opinion concerning the victory of the megalodon disappeared. shark, it can equip up to 3 pets at a time and can break purple crystal walls. Although Livayatan was a dangerous bounty, Megalodon preyed on similar whales regularly. Does anyone here know exactly how thick megalodons hide was? We must therefore forget the image of the megalodon that kills the livyathan have a jaw. That’s how whales escape orcas. If livyatan were to damage them the shark would be doomed. It is reddish with white patterns unlike its enemy counterparts. Had they continued to thrive, and shape the ecology of the world’s oceans, surely our seas would look much different today. Some humpback whales do not do this so it isn’t instinctual. The anti-tank guy mighht be fragile but is completely the counter to the tough armored vehicle. but most of the time the winner goes to livyatan just because it can most likely 1. dive a few hundred meters deeper due to thick blubber .2 the livyatan would not give the un-intelligent megalodon time to think out its attack .3 livyatan likely had an upper hand on different ways to intercept the attack like for example the megalodon is closer to the surface so the livyatan will be smart and have time to use what ever current advantage it has over the megalodon. and just because the megalodons bite force was the strongest doesn't mean that the livyatans was weak ether. With such an impressive set of choppers, one theory regarding Livyatan’s hunting strategy might be surprising. The meg wins due to strength,bite force and all around the meg is the real king of the ocean, BUT that doesn't mean the livyatan isnt strong it is still able to kill a meg but I think most of the time the meg wins although I think the meg is king, maybe the livyatan has something that we havent discovered that could kill the megalodon...Who knows? If these apex predators came together to fight, bite force won't be very useful, however, the megalodon has a speed that is much higher than the leviathan, and the leviathan has an intellect a megalodon never had. Once they became bigger, faster and able to go to colder climates megalodon and Livyatan went extinct so in the evolutionary battle the true winner are modern whales who won just by moving to the Artic. The sperm whale and Livy are similarly sized so we can assume they have the same thickness. Even though these beasts had gone extinct long before modern humans were even around, there is still something in us that fears the deep abyss of the open ocean, and what may lurk in its depths. Megalodon bit the tales and fins of its prey instead of biting it directly because it can’t penetrate its blubber. According to the eq system female animals are several times more intelligent than males of the same species simply because they are smaller. It detects the presence of a large whale through its advanced sensory systems. Livyatan was a sperm whale, not an orca. the livyatan probably had a pod of up to around 5-20 whales much like modern pods. It’s interesting to imagine these two incredible prehistoric sea creatures squaring off in an epic battle, and if we were around back then we may have seen it. While it is highly improbable that a remnant population of Megalodon sharks still exists somewhere in the world, what is certain is that this massive predator once ruled the ancient oceans. However, if you're a sea creature, speed is the most important ability. As long as megalodons hide isn’t over 13 inches long then Livy should be able to bite through its back. Leviathan would come up with plan b -even assuming plan a failed. @wyldsong: Not really. Megalodon had its bite force (which is useless if it doesn't get to bite the whale). So yes, whales and elephants are in the same league as dolphins in intelligence. Colossal Squid Boss vs Zombie Shark,Atomic,Big Momma,Killer Whale,Megalodon - Hungry Sharkãè¦ã - Dailymotionã§Bernardbuddicom78ãè¦è´ although shark can't do anything when they are flipped over but remember, Meg is way weighter than leviathan, so leviathan has no chance to flip Meg over before it ripped in piece by Megalodon. shark, it can equip up to 3 pets at a time and can break purple crystal walls. Its superior bite force, speed and strength was what gave it the edge in its dangerous ocean world against all kinds of other apex predators, including large and dangerous whales. But the primary food source for both was marine mammals. who do you think would win then? Because shark skeletons consist mostly of cartilage, the only evidence of Megalodon we have today is teeth, jaw fragments and a few pieces of vertebrae. While we can assume that full-on fighting wasn’t in the best interest of either creature and probably occurred very rarely, the nod seems to go to Megalodon in this case. so it really is 50/50. meg can't just cut leviathan in half it depends on teeth. they are idiots. A tooth from the massive Megalodon shark. While livyatan had a good brain. This last is not an insignificant advantage. livyatans are likely relatives to an orca or a sperm whale. "50 km / h": Livyathan's speed was never estimated, we can just deduce it and +50 km / h is quite likely. Megalodon is so glorified some people even make theories about it being alive. In case one, the first attack of the megalodon could be fatal for any type of cetacean, but not in the case of lyviathan or sperm whale because of its layer of skin and fat reducing the impact. Megalodon or Livyatan? First let me explain how the eq system came to be. @samconery: That Megalodon in that picture easily destroys. @sirfizzwhizz: Haha alright I was just confused because you said "only 1/3". "Livyatan probably had a pod of up to around 5-20 whales much like modern pods.". @insertnewname: 3? The Orcas want a dead Megalodon. This would leave the megalodon totally out of it's depth (pun intended) and it would be taken out quickly. So Livyatan and cachalot aren’t the only cetaceans who wouldn’t die in one bite from the megalodon. The eq system is ridiculous and whales are just as intelligent as dolphins. In no way in hell can the shark win this. Livyatan Melvillei is a fairly recent discovery in the world of paleontology, first described back in 2008. It had the biggest teeth of any animal to ever live at over a foot long. The leviathan’s bite force is mike tyson’s punch while the megalodon’s is mikes bite. A single tooth that looks like it could have come from Livyatan was also found in Australia in 2016, but it could also have come from another, unknown, extinct sperm whale. In reality, they were most likely about the same size. However, there is one thing you said that I believe to be incorrect: “In case one, the first attack of the megalodon could be fatal for any type of cetacean, but not in the case of lyviathan or sperm whale because of its layer of skin and fat reducing the impact.”. However: as I said before, sharks lose speed compared to a smaller individual of similar morphology with increasing size and weight because it will spend more energy at the same speed as its reduced version because of the weight and the shark, in general, not being predators of endurance, the largest will be much slower even if their morphology allows them. If not, then two or maybe three whales are enough. This is a tie because intellegence gives off a big bonus but stealth and tactics are 2 small bonus as big as the intellegence bonus. Megalodon’s tactic is about killing whales by using ambush tactics, it uses its powerful bite force as its advantage. but leviathan had a 2x bigger teeth so leviathan wins. 3. Indeed, although sharp, the megalodon teeth are not efficient enough to shear its prey if it has a skin of this order there, for that, it would need teeth of the same structure as that of a tiger shark or a Greenland shark, which is not the case. Megalodon teeth=7 inches. Some animals, such as elephants, have longer tusks, but Livyatan’s teeth were built for action. These are the kind of creatures that have spawned myth and legend since mankind first went into the water. the killer whales have hunted sperm whales, a sperm whale eats a megalodon as a snack. Killer Wales are only 1/3 that. Livyatan for the win! "Livyatan would easily win because of its intellect.". WRONG ANSWER. 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