That reason is NOT so that a Y-adapter can be used to connect the sub. Hi and welcome to JustAnswer, Initially, pls confirm if the stereo has "one set of RCA inputs" or "one set of RCA outputs". . Many players use two amps for stereo techniques that require multiple loudspeakers. then you have some older amps. These have two 6. How to create a hard link to an inode (ext4)? A true amp is meant to be used with a pre-amp. So there you have it. In some amps, the 1 & 2 inputs are simply lo/hi input level running through the same pre-amp circuit varied only by resistance to ground. « Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 10:44:54 pm » You could examine the difference between a voltage feedback operational amplifier and a current feedback operational amplifier. Was just reading through posts and didn't understand a few amp references so I've got to ask, why do a lot of amps have the one set of controls and inputs plus another set in the same amp? As a matter of fact most vintage amps and vintage style amps have two inputs. my tre's got a low gain and a high gain input. 5mm cable splitter. That amp is only rated for 100 x 2 @ 4-ohms. Ol’ #2 is good for players using a multi-effects board that has a hot signal coming from it as well. and as far as wiring it up I'm lost about what needs fused if your using multiple batteries and one amp with dual inputs When I was a poor teenager, my friend would come over to jam and we'd each use an input on my amp. Of course I'll have to tell my receiver that I'm bi-amping and it'll make some changes. Reactions: absf and OBW0549. I have seen that most amps have two inputs. channels: the inputs will go different places, ex: fenders, one input will go through normal channel, the other will go through a vibrato or something. If you were lucky and had an amp with two channels this problem was minimized……..unless one channel had reverb and the other did not which is a whole other “heads or tails I get the reverb channel” situation. Powered by Invision Community. There will be more headroom for the high output. Attenuate one input, or bypass a tube stage. Why Do Quality Speakers Have Two Input Terminals? Is it OK to wire them up as outlined above or is there a better way? When you get sick of the looseness, go for the 2nd input. If you choose this solution, be sure the amp has two instrument inputs. Yeah but the amp has to have 2 active inputs and there are few amps that have 2 active inputs You need a 6. Usually input #1 has a bit higher gain than input #2 resulting in a louder, hotter sound. dl324. Clear editor. I liked chorus on my cleans but I hated the tap dancing involved to turn it off when I went to dirties. It just isn't. A discussion of a Y-adapter should have never entered this thread. But if you could not afford another amp this is the way it was done. . For example, many delay pedals have stereo outputs for “ping-pong” effects, in which repeats bounce back and forth between a pair of speakers. . © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. These have two 6. My HU has three outs- front, rear, and sub. Sonny Rollins' Way out West SACD is like this. Why do some car subwoofers have 2 inputs? It has four inputs because it is a 4-channel amp. On some amps you can, on others you can't. I am a one man shop and my hours can vary so please contact me to confirm that I will be open. they just have three instrument inputs. This is very effective for jazz players. Back when these vintage archetypes were being produced most every manufacturer incorporated two inputs on each amplifier model. As with a lot of things we do, our decision to fit digital inputs to our amplifiers does not mean we believe that separate source equipment has fallen by the wayside (we still make these just to prove it!) Why two inputs? To confuse guitar players who can't make up their mind. amps typically dont have multiple a/v inputs and dont switch inputs, what you have is probably a reciever, or an integrated amp. Some jazz recordings have the upright bass placed entirely on the left channel while the drums (including the kick drume) are faded to the right channel. Why do you think that Voxes and Marshalls from teh 60s had four inputs? May 17, 2020 #8 OBW0549 said: As I recall, MOSFETs were not compatible with those fab processes. Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by ocean, Apr 28, 2018. “Absolutely nothin’, sing it again……uh“! This Question of the Day comes from Vlad in Minnesota. danuniversal, April 17, 2008 in Amps. There are some exceptions, but there's a reason a lot of players use a Fender amp for their clean tones and a Marshall when they need to bring the thunder. I feel like an idiot asking this question but a friend of mine has an old Marshall JTM-45 amp with 4 inputs on it. This results in a 3 dB increase in SPL since the inputs are internally summed. Re: Why do op-amps want their inputs to be the same? He sent me an email asking me about input #2 on his reissue Fender Princeton Reverb amp and what it is used for. Remember that my switches can work both ways, this means that they can have either 2 inputs and 1 output or 1 input and 2 outputs. 2. 2. Sometimes you can or cant use them at the same time depending on whether th inputs are in phase. Wrong - the High gain input would be better suited for passive pickups, and the Low gain would be better for actives. Many jazz players like input #2 for the same reason: more headroom which translates into a bit of a cleaner sound. Back when these vintage archetypes were being produced most every manufacturer incorporated two inputs on each amplifier model. My first gigging amp was a Fender Deluxe 112 Plus which had 2 inputs. So, while not commonly needed, I think that the stereo inputs and the outputs have their place for some of us. The OP asked why sub's have dual inputs. Like Reply. × Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. The two inputs were supposed to accomodate two players believe it or not! is it just like less resistance? Some modern boutique amps do not have an input #2 to save room and keep things simple. Upload or insert images from URL.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Otherwise, if you have separate amps, you'd so the same thing using 1 channel for the highs and one for the lows. Some issues would occur like when one player turned his guitar down it would turn down the other player at the same time. This is incidentally why some guitar amps that don't have both types of inputs have a "tone cut" switch on them. One bizarre effect I remember was that if I rolled down the volume on my guitar, it'd silence his too. I know this might be the wrong forum but here goes. Yeah but the amp has to have 2 active inputs and there are few amps that have 2 active inputs You need a 6. I read that one have lower volume. I have reservations about hooking up the Max4466 and Arduino outputs, in parallel, into the inputs of the TDA2030 amps (to achieve dual inputs) although not sure why. Amp A and Amp B are connected to the inputs of switch 1. Input #2 can be used for guitars with hot or active pickups.   Your previous content has been restored. . It is only because the sub HAS those 2 inputs that a Y-adapter CAN happen to be used. I hope this answered your question Vlad and that you keep visiting 300guitars! But nonetheless that’s what the original intent was for. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions or are in need of some tech work. Nowadays no player would dare plug into input #2 with their buddy occupying the favored input #1. Why do old Marshall heads have 4 inputs? / How to jump amp channels. my jsx has high gain input and a low gain input, i was thinking bag pipes...but accordian is quite nice. Bi-wiring high-end speakers will drastically improve their audio performance. I doubt you’re going to invite your BFF over to jam on your Princeton Reverb and make him plug into input #2 but it’s there for high output guitars or pedalboards and for jazz players. I thought it would be interesting for some readers. Coming back to why you’ll need at least 2 inputs (that records simultaneously) on an audio interface, it is basically because I believe 2 inputs give you bigger versatility. back in the old days not everyone could afford an amp, so they encouraged everyone to just plug into the same amp. the guy at the store told me the low gain input was for passive pickups and the high gain input was for actives. Adding a Y splitter doubles the drive voltage at the line level inputs. The bass enhancement is the response of more than one input. Two RCA inputs can also be used to sum the L/R stereo outputs in a 2.1application where the customer only wants to use one subwoofer. The two inputs were supposed to accomodate two players believe it or not! They support resolutions beyond the HDMI standard and allow multiple inputs to support a resolution/refresh rate beyond that of standard HDMI. Use the input that sounds good to you, what you need to get you to the breakup/distortion level vs loudness you want. I have seen that most amps have two inputs. The two inputs into the subwoofers car are very necessary as it helps to produce the best sound quality and improve bass. i have been looking at some higher watt amps like the aq3500 and the dat2500. It selects between Amp A and Amp B. Receivers are basically a pre-amp and an amp combined, and they usually have a tuner. Sensitivity: 2 ways to do it. is this true? You can post now and register later. A 4-channel amp should be used for mids and highs. There IS a correct answer to why subs have dual inputs. 300Guitars1 Executive Dr Unit 1L Toms River, NJ 08755. By This gives these particular guitars a “padded” input so the first gain stage is not overdriven resulting in some unwanted distortion. Connection would go like this: 1. Cheesy stuff. I do all the tech work myself so you deal directly with me. Not the best situation at all. 4 days ago. (I am in every other Saturday). 1 Executive Dr Unit L Toms River, NJ 08755. I think some people automatically declare input 1 the optimal choice because of the "more is better" philosophy, but I do recommend trying input 2 if you have a loud signal going into the amp from either pedals, pickups, or both. Just kidding. Assuming that the stereo has only a pair of RCA outputs and you require to feed 2 amplifiers, the basic procedure would be to split the RCA pair.This could be acieved with the use of a 1 male to double female RCA adapter as shown below. The 805 is just set up to bi-amp already. Saturday 10am - 2pm. The preamp has all the inputs, and the amp powers the speakers. High-quality speakers distinguish themselves in a variety of ways: high-end materials, detailed engineering and precise manufacturing. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2.   You cannot paste images directly. This was a question of the day blog post on 12-1-09. Fast forward about 45 years and there is the basically dormant input #2 which brings me back to the original question…..what is it good for? Because they were designed for ENTIRE BANDS. Any good HU does now days. This particular amp has two inputs marked with the numbers 1 and 2. One jack will have higher gain than the other. Two HDMI’s in… two common reasons: 1. I am also an Eminence, Mercury Magnetics, Mojo Musical Supply dealer. Sometimes even a microphone was plugged into input #2! One is tighter than the other. Two inputs help to improve the … It's supposed to provide much better highs and lows. My old Music Man has it's more complicated set on the right with Master Volume, gain, reverb, etc. Do a search on jumpering 5E3 channels for more ideas in that area. Many of the "acoustic" amps have an XLR input for one of the channels so you can use it for guitar and vocal. Please ship all repairs to: 1 Executive Dr Unit L Toms River, NJ 08755. For those of you who have a head/cab rig, the speaker jacks on the back of the head are outputs; they send the amplified signal out to the cabinet. So I used to A/B switch between my chorus pedal going into input 1 and my distortion pedal going into input 2. Good allowance savings plan?   Pasted as rich text. On some less expesive models there would be some humming as you turned down as well. Also as hasserl points out, not all amps are designed this way. As a matter of fact most vintage amps and vintage style amps have two inputs. Tube amps are classic, and while they vary considerably in tone, they do share some remarkable sonic characteristics. Switch 2: 2 inputs… It always makes me roflcopter when I see an amp like that, and imagine instances where people tried to plug multiple instruments into them and actually be loud. Is it a tube amp, solid state, or some hybrid of the two. It doesn't hurt anything to try. × Display as a link instead, × And a HU with only one set of outputs wouldn't be in my vehicle. Why do some amps have both hi and low inputs ? I do remember when a HU had one pre-out though. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. The jcm800 (and some soldanos and the 5150) use a bypassed tube stage input, which is ALWAYS out of phase with the other input, and using both at the same time makes it sound like {censored}. Can i use both at the same time? Usually input #1 has a bit higher gain than input #2 resulting in a louder, hotter sound. 5mm cable splitter. The signal is traveling out of your amp to some other destination, such as a PA system or recording gear. Some low-noise audio op amps have JFET inputs. Combined, these factors produce far better sound than lesser equipment. 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